A Serious Discussion: A Second Attempt
Inspired by recent events in my life and comments which have been posted upon this blog, I, the HBB, have once again taken up my proverbial quill, in the attempt to aid the Beachy Complex community in understanding some fundamental truths.
In my previous writings, I have pointed out some flaws in Beachyism by means of satire, which some have taken to be insults at the Gospel itself, which thing they were not.
I have been kindly asked to clarify what, if anything, should be changed about the Beachys. Rather than privately answering this request, I felt it could be helpful to discuss it in this open forum. It is to be understood that entering into any such discussion has the very real potential of generating controversy. But as I have amply demonstrated, I do not fear controversy, perhaps I enjoy it too much. Therefore, in this post I shall attempt to set forth several principles, which I feel should guide change and reform in the Beachy church at large.
Principle #1- Inward change must precede outward change.
I have heard many discussions regarding changing the church, and it seems to me that almost all of them revolve around some form outward change.
“Let’s change the hairstyles, let’s change the dress styles, let’s allow some new forms of techology and entertainment, let’s do our best to take down the fences that keep the world out.”
In some more radical reforms, such as the Charity movement, even the ecclesiastical structure itself is changed. But all of these changes, whether they are beneficial or not, are outward changes. And while outward change will eventually take place with true reform, it is the end but not the means to the end. The means to that end is inward, internal, invisible change, which will lead to visible, external, outward change.
This is the principle upon which we trip. The reason that we trip that it is impossible to effect inward change from without. It simply does not happen. And what is more, it is impossible to enforce inward change. Therefore, you cannot start a program at your local church after which you will have internally changed everyone into what they should be.
Lest you doubt that inward change precedes and leads to outward change, read Romans 12:2. I have heard many people major on verse 2, part 1, which states, ”And be not conformed to this world…” But simple nonconformity is not the end of the issue, it is hardly the beginning. Look at the rest of the verse, “…but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind that ye might prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.”
It is to be understood then, that a renewed mind will lead to a renewed life, and a renewed life is not one which will be conformed to the world either in philosophy, or in lifestyle.
The question then remains-Where does the renewed mind that leads to the internal change that leads to the outward change that leads to the renewed life come from?
That is a good question.
It leads us to Principle #2-
Inward change is brought about by having our minds conformed to the mind of Christ.
This means that we examine Jesus Christ and His philosophy of life, and the things that He believed and taught and practiced and we embrace them and make them our own.
That means that we love what He loves and hate what He hates, we smile when He smiles and weep when He weeps. We embrace what He accepts, and shun what He rejects.
We make a willful choice to have our hearts conformed to Christ. In doing so, we “present our bodies a living sacrifice” ready to be as Christ, regardless of personal cost.
It is useless to have this discussion without getting specific.
The reason that I have heard most cited as a need to lower our standards is that they have become a barrier to the world.
This I deny.
My friends, we have become a barrier to the world.
Our walls against the world are not walls of dress and practice. They are walls of culture. A man and his wife can enter our churches from “the world” and start wearing cape dresses and coverings and straight cut suits and stop watching TV and going to fairs and festivals and wearing shekich shirts and carpenter pants, but they will still not fit in.
Why?
Because we don’t want them to.
We don’t want them to because they don’t can or garden, or make their own dresses, or work in construction or farm.
We don’t want them to because they have a different frame of reference than we do.
We don’t want them to because they aren’t related to someone we know.
We don’t want them to because their last name isn’t Miller or Yoder or Lapp or Coblentz or Raber or Hochstetler or Eicher or whatever other name is widely accepted in your area.
We don’t want them because they rock the boat.
For whatever reason, we just don’t want them.
If the key to church growth was simply letting down on standards for membership, the Baptist, Lutheran, Prebyterian and Catholic churches which have no standards at all would have everyone attending them.
But they don’t.
The world cries and longs for what only those with the mind of Christ can give. The world is looking for people who give a hoot about their lives. And they are precious few.
Why?
Because in order to care, you must feel the world’s pain, and in order to feel the world’s pain, you must hurt. Caring hurts, and we don’t care enough to hurt. So we shrug off the pain of the world, and leave it bleeding and dying in the ghettos of sin while we deceive ourselves into thinking that we would reach them if only we were a little less righteous.
We would reach them if we were a little less self-righteous.
Perhaps this blog post hasn’t been very coherent. For that I apologize.
Perhaps this blog post has come across very strong. For that I don’t care.
It’s been a long post, so I’ll bring it to a close, even though I haven’t exhausted this subject.
But if you want more, I’ll give it to you.
Regards,
HBB
Dorcas Y. wrote,
Amen.
Link | October 21st, 2007 at 2:43 pm
RAE wrote,
good points… very true
Link | October 22nd, 2007 at 2:17 pm
penndawg21 wrote,
here’s some questions that mennonites ask when they meet other mennonites:
What do you work?
Where do you live?
What church do you go to?
Do you know such and such?
Are you related to such and such?
…maybe this shows our heart’s focus
Link | October 22nd, 2007 at 7:25 pm
Glen Beachy wrote,
I sure like your Principle #1- Inward change must precede outward change. Without inward change it is impossible to fake an outward change. I still like your site and your writings, keep on posting.
GB
Link | October 23rd, 2007 at 12:12 am
Michael wrote,
That was brilliant. I’ve had a similar experience with some other Mennonites who aren’t as conservative on the outside, but as you said, the problem isn’t on the outside.
Link | October 23rd, 2007 at 4:01 pm
Marie Yoder wrote,
Keep writing!It’s time some people wake up.
Link | October 24th, 2007 at 3:58 pm
E. Yoder wrote,
Thanks for the post. i really like your humorous posts but this one was very meaningful. It definitely deserves more discussion!
Link | October 24th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Lem wrote,
My comment on “A Serious Discussion…”is too lengthy to post here. If you care to see it, send me your personal email address.
Link | October 25th, 2007 at 3:39 pm
BJY wrote,
Very well said!
Link | October 30th, 2007 at 10:46 pm
KG wrote,
Speaking as someone from the outside/community - AMEN.
Link | November 8th, 2007 at 9:36 am
KY wrote,
Good.
Link | November 8th, 2007 at 8:43 pm
TK wrote,
Very true.
But if we try to not be ‘mennonite’ we will become just like what you are condemning. We must strive for the mind of Christ, not to be not like those people. Sorry, that barely makes scene.
Link | November 10th, 2007 at 8:17 pm
Karen Humphries wrote,
Hello — haven’t “talked” with you for awhile! How are you? I just wanted to say that I really liked this post — that’s what the Lord’s been telling me for years and years! If the heart doesn’t change, nothing else will!
Hope you’re doing well.
Link | November 16th, 2007 at 7:01 pm
NB wrote,
RIGHT! AMEN! It’s great to see it verbalized so plainly… things I have thought about and wrestled with for a long time. Thank you!
Link | November 25th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
Josh Champagne wrote,
Good thoughts… I don’t find all your writings to be so inspiring, but this post is good.
To be changed from the inside by the person and life of Jesus Christ and to effectively live in this world and communicate to others the love of Christ is a staggering challenge and no one of us has all the answers. As a non-Menno/Amish background individual who has joined the conservative Mennonite crowd, I’ve found some of the negative things you mentioned true, however I see a change for the better in many, as we become more culturally agnostic and define more clearly what it means to be a disciple of Christ wherever we are regardless of culture, language, ethnicity or other factors that have no bearing on eternity.
Link | December 1st, 2007 at 8:25 pm
Stoltz13 wrote,
“We would reach them if we were a little less self-righteous.”
I’ve been left thinking… what are you doing to change this in your own life?
At least that is the question I have to ask myself.
Link | December 2nd, 2007 at 2:04 pm
HBB wrote,
An excellent point! And that is the final test.
Link | December 3rd, 2007 at 6:43 pm
Chris wrote,
The HBB is my brother. “OUCH!” HA HA! Figure that out. Anyway our mother is not a “Beachy” or “Mennonite” and never will be, even though she has gone to a “Beachy” church for over 30 years. For you see, “Beachys” and “Mennonites” are born. Just as Japanese, Mexicans, and Americans will always be Japanese, Mexicans, Or Americans, so “Beachys” and “Mennonites” will always be “Beachys” or “Mennonites”. And “Non-Mennonites” Never will BECOME “Mennonites” just as “Non-Beachys” never will BECOME “Beachys”. I Could write lots more, but will close with that. Are there any “Testimonies” or “Announcements”,………………………………………………………………….. if not let’s stand for prayer.
Link | December 26th, 2007 at 3:56 pm
Chris wrote,
HI HBB email me when you see this!
Link | December 26th, 2007 at 3:58 pm
MJS wrote,
Pleased to know there are other “Beachys” out there who care about the walls of culture we’ve put up. I left the Beachys mainly because of this very thing. (Now attend nondenominational church.) For years, I watched “non-Mennonites” come & go. Usually, by the time they left they were angry & I couldn’t blame them.
Link | January 1st, 2008 at 11:40 pm
prettyclosehome wrote,
There is an old saying that goes something like this - “Even an Indian wouldn’t shoot down another wounded Indian.” So my l-o-n-g standing question is as a former-Beachy-but-now-Mennonite is this - Why are our “wounded” shot down and not helped up???
Link | February 24th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
kn wrote,
Interesting! Thank you for taking the time to write this! Internal, for-real, obvious change is of the Holy Spirit and glorifies God, not any man. It cannot be forced or invented by man, just as physical life can only come from God. My family tried for many years to “fit in” to the conservative Menno. church as did many others. Just didn’t work! Some of your own may leave because they get disgruntled with the church standards, but may I venture to say, that I doubt few of these people “from the world” leave because they are sick and tired of cape dresses and straight cut suit jackets! However by the time all is said and done and they have been sufficiently traumitized, the sight of one might send them running for cover! How sad…so many “good” people…so much religion…too little relationship. Oh Heavenly Father, help us to hurt with your hurt, with the hurts of those around us! Help us to know Your heart, and love with Your love! And one more thing, dear fellow Christians, let us pray for the carnage left by the wayside…and may God deliver us from our self-rightiousness, me first of all!
Link | April 12th, 2008 at 8:39 pm